Discussion:
[PROPOSAL] Mark log collation as deprecated for v8.0.0
Leif Hedstrom
2018-07-26 19:58:52 UTC
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Hi all,

I’d like to mark the log collation feature as deprecated for the v8.0.0 release, such that we can remove it from v9.0.0. I have a number of reasons for this

1) It’s generally really broken. For example, the orphaned logs files are not handled in any reasonable way, making the feature IMO unusable.

2) No one has stepped up to the plate to fix anything other than the critical issues discovered (such as Peter’s memory leak fix).

3) Perhaps most importantly, this is not a problem that ATS should solve iMO. There are much better systems out there, such as Kafka, Elastic Search, Splunk etc., all which solves this problem in a much better way.


If you have objections to this, expect to have to do some serious work on this code base, because as I see it, it’s not up to the quality we expect from ATS.

Cheers,

— Leif
Derek Dagit
2018-07-26 20:05:22 UTC
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Sounds good.
Post by Leif Hedstrom
3) Perhaps most importantly, this is not a problem that ATS should solve iMO. There are much better systems out there, such as Kafka, Elastic Search, Splunk etc., all which solves this problem in a much better way.
Would we offer a recommendation along these lines during while the
feature is present but deprecated?
Post by Leif Hedstrom
Hi all,
I’d like to mark the log collation feature as deprecated for the v8.0.0 release, such that we can remove it from v9.0.0. I have a number of reasons for this
1) It’s generally really broken. For example, the orphaned logs files are not handled in any reasonable way, making the feature IMO unusable.
2) No one has stepped up to the plate to fix anything other than the critical issues discovered (such as Peter’s memory leak fix).
3) Perhaps most importantly, this is not a problem that ATS should solve iMO. There are much better systems out there, such as Kafka, Elastic Search, Splunk etc., all which solves this problem in a much better way.
If you have objections to this, expect to have to do some serious work on this code base, because as I see it, it’s not up to the quality we expect from ATS.
Cheers,
— Leif
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Derek
Leif Hedstrom
2018-07-26 20:06:33 UTC
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Post by Derek Dagit
Sounds good.
Post by Leif Hedstrom
3) Perhaps most importantly, this is not a problem that ATS should solve iMO. There are much better systems out there, such as Kafka, Elastic Search, Splunk etc., all which solves this problem in a much better way.
Would we offer a recommendation along these lines during while the
feature is present but deprecated?
This is not quite my area of expertise, but I can certainly put something on those lines into the note marking it as Deprecated. I know Phil has looked at various log collection / ingestion tools, so I’ll force him to help out.

Cheers,

— Leif

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